I have a 12V signal coming into a board, so I'm using an opto to isolate it= (comes from a longish cable), so tied a 10K pup to 5V, and into the PIC, b= ut also tied a LED to the same signal. Thought of course is....opto comes on, drives the collector low, turns on t= he LED and PIC sees it.=A0=A0 Well the LED does turn on, but the PIC wasnt = seeing it low.=A0 Looking just with a voltmeter, its sitting about 2.4V, so= its still a high.=A0 OK, physics still work. I changed out the resistor driving the opto's LED from a 2K to a 1K, thinki= ng that driving the LED harder will turn on the transistor harder...if it w= asn't fully saturated then its possible it can't drive all the way low.=A0 = No change.=A0 Did a really quick LTspice, and it simulates the way I expect= ....goes to ground.=A0=20 But now I'm thinking we might have a voltage divider between the pup and th= e LED circuit?=A0 The other solution, that Ive done before and probably sho= uld have on this was to put the LED in series with the opto input.=A0=A0 si= gnal..resistor....LED.....opto's LED....ground. Just wondering what I can do with the existing circuit --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .