Christopher Head writes: > Will gputils not serve the purpose if you are looking for an assembler? > I have no idea which parts it supports versus which parts you are > interested in, but it seems to work OK for me. For simulation there is > also gpsim, but I have not tried it. Thank you. This is a great help because I suspect I am more likely to get gpasm and gpsim working than I am to get mplab-x working. I do not presently have a working X environment in Linux although one system I have should run it but refuses to so far. gputils and gpsim appear to be in the same linage as what I originally had on here so this should get me back to where I was before more than likely. As for the parts, nothing really exotic-- PIC16F84's, 16F628's and several really old PIC's that are UV-erasable. I might as well use them in simple projects as they don't spoil. I think the PicStart plus will program every PIC I presently have in the parts cabinet so all that is needed is working software to drive the programmer. Again, thanks. Martin --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .