On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Carl Denk wrote: > OOPS, I just noticed the MPG went from 26 MPG to 32 MPG after replacing > the O2 sensor. And I had chased that for some miles, at first it was > intermittent. It's really almost impossible to troubleshoot these modern > vehicles without the system OBDII data. Around here many, not all auto > parts stores will scan your vehicle for free, hoping you will buy the > necessary parts there. > > Yes, you're right - that's a problem with modern vehicles (and consumer electronics in general) :-( Almost nothing is made nowadays with the intention of the owner being able to service it themselves. The Renault dealer will charge a fair amount just to scan it, and most of the local independent garages don't have the equipment as far I as I am aware. Myself, I'm happy with my Merc G-Wagen for now, nice old engine you can find your way around, and built like a tank - none of this electronic nonsense :-) --=20 http://www.piclist.com/techref/piclist PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .