Not offended, but certainly a bit sensitive. Perspective: I am an unemployed American with diverse technical credentials= .. Regarding employment, I never had any problem finding good work in the past 30-odd years, except the past five.. Regarding that odd comment about running faster than the robots, I am well credentialed in the programming, repair, and integration of robotic workcells. I also have related experience with general controls work. Regarding the harsh working schedule in China, The only job that I held in the past five years was as a maintenance man in a steel processing plant= .. My work schedule was 12 hours a day, seven days a week _REQUIRED_. There was an "effort" to get everyone one weekend off a month, but that usually disappeared for one reason or another. After almost two years, I quit the job. Have been unemployed for almost two more years since then. Most recent employment discovery? I applied for a job as a bag-boy at the local grocery store, and was turned down as "unqualified". It is interesting to hear other perspectives on the subject. If I find some= thing completely offensive, I'll just "unsubscribble". Now back to my lurking place.. Lyle --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .