=20 > Not higher voltage (measured using DC multimeter) - stable 4.5 VDC... A fresh alkaline is 1.65V, so 3 would be as high as 4.95V (something you learn when powering logic off of batteries) Perhaps measure the battery voltage during operation and after the unit stops working, also the current draw Some designers are fiendishly clever, and can make a circuit work within a narrow window but don't give a hoot about battery life Similar to what Sean mentioned, I've seen a lot of people over at the laser LED sites using 2 batteries without active current limiting ("just stick 3V on it, you'll be fine"). There's 3V, and then there's 3V Ideally you'd want to characterise your tapestry with a PSU that has voltage and current settings. You can make a basic one with a couple of LM317s. One sets the voltage, another sets the current http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/lm117.pdf Worth having a few in the parts box. Figure 36 shows how you use one as a current limiter - as an alternative to a resistor - to simulate the battery impedance Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .