Take a look at http://www.ti.com/tool/msp-exp430g2#Technical Documents Two chips and a development board(simple) for $4.30. However, I ordered=20 a coupe in September I have not seen yet. I will order a couple more. On 12/25/2012 11:30 PM, veegee wrote: > I've heard it numerous times from various people that the MSP430 (I know = Bob Blick loves them) is "better" than the PIC, but I still can't understan= d why. > > For the same or similar price of a comparable MSP430, I can get many more= features in a PIC, *much* more flash and SRAM, lots of DIP package options= (essential for me), and availability in hobby quantities. All of this for = a very reasonable total price, straight from Microchip Direct. > > As far as I know, TI doesn't sell directly, and I always end up going to = Mouser for anything TI. Also can't find any decently-sized MSP430 in a DIP = package. > > The only thing that would make PIC development perfect is a good open sou= rce PIC18 compiler. SDCC is okay, but nowhere near as good as the HITECH (n= ow Microchip) PIC18 compiler which produces shockingly compact and optimize= d code. > > But now that LLVM seems to have picked up, maybe I'll write a 8 & 16 bit = PIC compiler using it... --=20 John Ferrell W8CCW That which can be destroyed by the truth should be. P.C. HODGELL =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .