At 02:06 AM 12/21/2012, you wrote: >I was just showing someone how, if, you held down the Alt key on an IBM PC >style keyboard and keyed in numeric codes on the right hand number pad, >that you would get the character for the equivalent code. >Then I woke up. > >As I recall I showed them that if you keyed Alt-41 that you got "A" etc, >whereas (of course) you have to key Alt-65 ($41 =3D dec(65) ) to get an A= ..) >Whether this was memory failure or dream translation I'm not sure. > >I can't recall when I last used this capability "in anger" while awake. >Memory fails to suggest exactly when, but it does not seem to have been to= o >long ago (ie years rather than decades). > >I do recall using it a few years back when a Chinese hotel PC keyboard >insisted on producing Chinese characters and I was not (then) aware of the >very simple means of toggling between keyboard languages (typically >ctrl-shift cycles) >I used Wordpad and cut & paste plus Altxx to produce a message :-). > > > > Russell The "three number with leading zero" codes seem to be more reliable=20 (as far as working in different applications). Eg. ALT-0176 for the degrees symbol.=20 ALT-0163 for GBP, ALT-0165 for Yuan or.. http://symbolcodes.tlt.psu.edu/accents/codealt.html They require the numeric keypad, but I can coax them out of any of my noteb= ooks by using the virtual numeric keypad (blue "Fn" shift key) which mostly overlays alpha keys 0 -> M 1 -> J 2 -> K 3 -> L 4 -> U 5 -> I 6 -> O 7 -> 7 (upper row) 8 -> 8 " 9 -> 9 " Failing that, open a Microsoft or other program that has "insert symbol" and cut and paste that. You can often cut and past Chinese characters (eg. mandarintools.com=20 C/E dictionary). The ctrl-shift cycles thing is interesting.. there are also some=20 sequences that cause the screen to rotate (for pivot displays, but easy to screw=20 with someone's display in a flash if they're not aware of it). --sp --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .