> maximum amp-turns and shaping the field density I plan, unless advised otherwise, to make the core long and slender, probably 6mm soft iron rod. That way I can get the turns up, 26 or 28 gauge, so the distance from the core should be minimised, and will help keep the current down > Practical aspects quickly push you into a particular solution. You > probably have some maximum volume you can occupy and some > power source with a maximum current available The initial energising will be a DC dump via a FET and reservoir cap. After that I can let the PSU take over. There's no real restriction on parameters but obviously the coil and PSU don't need to be unnecessarily big .. Wire has volume and resistance. > Smaller wire gives more turns in the available volume but higher > resistance means you need a higher voltage to get the current. And so on= .. > In the solenoid core, the flux departs immediately at the ends of the cor= e > and bends back around to the other end. The effect is that the flux=20 > density > quickly reduces But it would be strongest and most repulsive at the point it leaves the cor= e=20 ? > The problem you are solving determines the shape that can be used so > it's up to you If what I just asked is correct, then a straight bar would be best to repel a magnet as it's pole against pole, with the attracting pole at the other=20 end of the EM core > As for permanent magnets, Brendan mentioned the fact that the fields > add together. This is up until the core is saturated in which case no > further increase of field strength is had even if the current is increase= d I think I picked up on that on my travels. My question was whether a permanent magnet can improve the efficiency or response of the EM by "wetting" the domains before current is applied > For a quick and horrible demonstration of this, bring a high power > rare earth magnet up to the inductor in a switching power supply > under maximum current load - you can easily saturate the inductor and > then destroy the switching circuit due to high current. Much as I'd like to see that (on someone else's of course), I'll take your word for it ;-)) Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .