....Oh, and just when I thought I'd compiled a comprehensive list, along com= es this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRVHGjgkFPlU If you're looking off the PIC reservation, pull up http://www.pjrc.com/teen= sy/ and click on "Getting Started"... I started with Teensy 2.0, AVR Studio 4 for assembler, and GCC C / Programmer's Notepad. Except for the board, free - No programmer necessary. Pretty slick. Teensy 3.0 is just released - An ARM processor. Overkill for the stuff I do, but looks interesting... Jack --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .