Ken says: NXP (Philips as they were) have just announced their LPC800 family of microcontrollers that I think really will put a dent in the market for traditional 8-bit devices (like the LPC900 family we currently make extensive use of). In a nutshell an LPC800 device is an ARM Cortex M0+ 32-bit low-power processor with basic peripherals (including a fairly decent analog comparator), a cross-point switch for ALL I/O, and a modicum of Flash code memory and SRAM - and available in low pin-count easy-to-use packages - including I'm told DIP8. The 8-pin variants of the LPC900 family only remained in production for a couple of years (much to our frustration after designing them in to several products) so I'm a little skeptical but we'll see. It's not the first "tiny" ARM processor based on the M0+ core, but it's arguably the first that is consciously designed to compete with traditional 8-bit offerings (including NXP's own LPC900 family). Effective code space (16kB max) is increased by additional ROM that provide= s drivers for some of the peripherals (like UART and I2C) and for power-control functions. SRAM can be up to 4kB. The CPU operates at up to 30 MHz (with clock generator PLL) and I/O pins can be updated in a single cycle (so it's no slouch compared with typical 8-bitters). An internal 1%-accurate RC clock generator eliminates the need for an external crystal in many applications. The peripherals include specific provision to wake the processor from deep sleep on hardware qualified stimuli - so effective power consumption can be better than many traditional 8-bitters. Supply voltage can be from 1.8V to 3.6V. At 3.3V the supply current at "full tilt" (30MHz) is 3.3mA max around 1.5mA at 12MHz with all peripherals active. In Sleep Mode (processor stopped, all peripheraps running), supply current is approximately halved. Full power-down consumption (with ability to wake up on external stimuli) is around 200nA. I'm guessing that supply current falls somewhat with supply voltage. Pricing is set to to make that no barrier when choosing between an 8-bitter and an LPC800 device. Pricing for the LPC810 (4kB Flash, 1kB SRAM, DIP8) is US$0.39 (quantity not specified). The current "high-end" device is the LPC812 (16k= B Flash, 4kB SRAM, TSSOP20). Both available "soon". --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .