Hi dwayne, I wonder why a pierce oscillator wouldn't work. You can use an inverter such as http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn54lvc04a.pdf which would work as low 1.6V - 3.6V All you need to do is connect the 32kHz crystal across the inverter, with damping capacitors and a high value isolation resistor. Why wouldn't this work ? Regards, Manu On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Dwayne Reid wrote= : > Good day to all. > > We are currently trying to help out a customer who has brought us a > product designed by someone else. Its based on an Atmel ATmega 328P > processor and uses a 32KHz crystal for timekeeping. > > And - the 32KHz oscillator is not working. I've messed around with > it for a couple of days but I can get only 4 out of 7 units > oscillating by playing around with the crystal caps. 3 units simply > refuse to oscillate. > > I've tried several different crystals, both with 6pF & 12pF > ratings. I was able to get 4 of the units working by soldering in > variable capacitors and fussing with the actual capacitance on both > sides of the crystal but I am NOT comfortable about the long term > reliability of the 4 units that are currently working. > > A quick Google search reveals that the low-power oscillator mode of > the 328P is NOT reliable. Atmel does not have a solution. > > So: my thought is to simply glob on an external 32KHz oscillator > package. The card runs from 2- "D" cells in series for a operating > voltage of 1.8V through 3.4Vdc. This limits my options. > > My first grab was for a tried and true part: the Dallas / Maxim > DS32KHz packaged oscillator. I've used this part successfully > several times in the past with great results. The relatively high > cost is not much concern right now - I only need to get these 7 units > working. Alas, though, the DS32KHz is rated to run down to only > 2.7V. That's simply not good enough. > > Another thought is to take a small PIC (12f675 comes to mind) and > glom on the bypass and crystal caps plus the crystal. It would be > ugly but would probably work. > > Before I go there, though, I thought that see if my fellow PIClisters > might have a favorite packaged 32KHz module that works over the > supply range of 1.8V - 3.4Vdc. > > Many thanks! > > dwayne > > -- > Dwayne Reid > Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA > (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax > www.trinity-electronics.com > Custom Electronics Design and Manufacturing > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .