>=20 > > Not only unfriendly to hobbyist, but also relative big business. You > > need to sign an NDA to have access to the datasheet of a Ethernet PHY > > which is a commodity part. > > >=20 > I don't get it, why do people keep using them? I think you are imagining the wrong marketing model. I suspect their model is that any chip they supply will have an NDA applied= to it, as they will only supply to people who are purchasing in the millio= ns of chips a year, and these people are going to be those using their GPU = chips, which are what the NDA is really aimed at. If you are buying GPU chi= ps, we can also supply PHY chips, etc, under the same NDA, and 'it will be = harder for people to reverse engineer your product as they cannot get the i= nformation without an NDA' when what they really mean is 'our salesman can'= t be bothered with selling small quantities and seeing if this chip the pot= ential customer wants requires an NDA so everything requires an NDA because= our salesman are so thick and lazy' --=20 Scanned by iCritical. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .