> With your OPB702 reflective sensor, it probably has a molded > lens with a definite focal point where it will work best.You might > try adding additional illumination, at least temporarily, to figure out > where that focal point is The datasheet says 0.15", which is what I set the guide to, and it does seem to be its sweet spot. That particular opto might work if a Schmitt Trigger or PIC smarts was added, as it's not too definite on edges or thin lines. Think I'm veering towards through-paper though Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .