> The emitters and detectors I used looked sort of like the attached > picture but only had two wires each Bob, Over the past few days I've tried various methods and think I've decided what will be best for my application First thing I tried was a standard reflective opto, OPB702. OK, but coarse resolution, even when restricting the apertures and using matte laser printing on shiny paper to give it the best contrast So I made my own reflective sensor with 0.1mm optic fibre + IR LED and an optic fibre channelling the reflection to an RPM1700 IR receiver. OK, fussy to set up and still coarse resolution >From The Drawer Of Parts That'll Come In Handy One Day came a Siemens SFH551V fibreoptic housing, like the one you posted, complete with a couple of inches of 1mm plastic fibre. Same result as before unfortunately But it was easy to do a quick test with light transmitted through the paper, and it worked very well. I'll make an adapter to use 0.1mm fibre. I'm assuming the RPM1700 will work equally well. It seems to be a lot more sensitive than the SFH551V, which may or may not be an advantage This means a sheet of glass with the IR receiver on top tracked by an IR transmitter below, something I instinctively thought from the gitgo might the most reliable. A little bit more mechanics but not a big deal for getting a better result Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .