> Motor runs generator runs motor - with power spare to run > grinder etc Their "special winding" sounds like something I was approached with several years ago. A generator that charged a battery which ran the generator which charged the battery which ..... All that was needed to achieve this was a "special box" inserted into the battery leads. I was told it was an ingenious and physics- defying arrangement of magnets (always with the magnets), potted in solid epoxy, naturally, so it couldn't be back-engineered. Like epoxy would stop anyone bothering to waste time on it His presentations and the FAQs fall short on many fronts. For example, if all that's needed is a "special winding", that could be done in a workshop, not a million-dollar factory. Sell the power generated back to the grid to fund expansion, there's your business model right there If it all were true. "In excess of 200 times more power from ground zero". Eh ? Half a MW from a 2900W generator. Presumably that's his life-size electric train set in the background I despair sometimes, I really do BTW, it's the first Youtube video ever I've been unable to save. "Unknown provider" says savevid, can't access it Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .