I look into how solar panels are made from time to time. I formerly=20 concentrated on the soldering and tabbing, but today I found=20 . I killed too much of the afternoon watching 3 parts, but learned a bit=20 about encapsulation. This guy didn't use any TPT backsheet, although he=20 claims he does for better panels. But the Dow Sylgard 184 encapsulant=20 he used is pretty pricey. Probably $60 worth to make a single panel. Makes me think Russel's consulting rates might be worthwhile. ;) Joe W On 9/17/2012 4:54 AM, RussellMc wrote: > Robin Bussell wrote: > >> I'd love to hear Russell's (or anyone else's for that matter ) take on >> what these two are doing: > >> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/alex9000/the-solar-pocket-factory-an= -invention-adventure > > Not a lot compared to what other people are offering on ebay and the > internet in general - and in fact less than some others BUT they do > offer a kitset and some get you going impetus which is helpful to > some. > > I did like their clothespeg instant charger. Very cute > > http://www.instructables.com/id/Five-minute-solar-phone-char= ger/ > > > An area which is vitally crucial (or crucially vital) that they do not > seem to have come to grips with yet is the range of extremely > important roles that encapulants play in making a PV panel. > > They are currently offering epoxy resin. > As they correctly observe, epoxy is good for about two years of UV > exposure - and that depends on which epoxy you happen to use and > whether you leave the PV panels in the weather all the time or not. > Epoxy is a very poor material in many ways and was traditionally used > because it was easy to use, relatively cheap and available. A quick > skim indicates they do not do vacuum outgassing (can be done with low > tech equipment if desired) which cam be a major requirement. depending > on other factors. > > I will not go into vast details on what and why an encapsulant should > be like but a good summary is low modulus (flexible) when set, > excellent voidless adhesion to PV material, low dissolved water > content, minimal UV degradation, minimal corrosive degradation > products with time. Note that water permeability is not the same as > dissolved water % and that the former is far less important. For > detailed reasons why please advise consulting rates paid :-). > > > > > Russell McMahon. > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .