http://www.nbcsandiego.com/blogs/press-here/Google-Fights-FBI--168945636.ht= ml The generic LE position seems to be that,a traffic stop is cause enough for requiring DNA samples, passwords, and, in California at least, any cash one might be carrying. All this being arrested, much less being charged with a crime. Some of us are old enough to remember the jeering at "Totalitarian" regimes... --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .