I have a pin coming out of a chip that indicates an error condition. Pin will be at +5 or ground. (e.g. not a 3.3 volt system) The output requires at least 4.7K ohms resistance, or risk pulling more tha= n the iMAX rated current for that pin. PCB already done, no room for a transistor to amplify the output (next revision). So the question is this: What LED would you use to get the most noticeable indication from 5 volts through a 4K7? I'm thinking very small, but diffuse red.=20 But then I notice the ones with the highest mcd rating are always clear...= =20 Any experienced advice? -- James Newton at massmind.org 1-970-462-7764 =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .