> BTW, Use extreme caution with their multimeters on AC, especially over > 120V: > > http://www.bnl.gov/userscenter/Immediate/cen_tech.asp Bob's advice is worth noting in general for multimeters. Many cheaper multimeters are NOT certified for use on AC mains and using them for AC mains measurements creates a potentially* life threatening situation. Short: Use a CAT IV rated meter for mains measurement if you want to maximise your life prospects. CAT ratings are from IEC 61010-1 2nd Edition and UL 61010B-1 (UL 31111-= 1) Longer: YMMV - I've used various cheap meters on 230 VAC without incident, BUT you could try it tomorrow and wonder why you died. I've only ever had one multimeter die due to flashover - and that was many decades ago, using an analog meter based instrument on the 1000 VDC range to read what turned out to be about 1200 VDC !!!! To be "safe" you'd like to be using [tm] a CAT IV rated meter Wikipedia - measurement categories - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_category A CAT IV meter used at no more than it's labelled measurement voltage SHULD be safe on any circuit you can connect it to A CAT III meter SHOULD be safe on any in building measurement you can make - including feeds on the internal sides of distribution boards. As the external and internal sides of distribution boards are potentially* electrically closer than may sometimes be comfortable, a CAT IV meter may be good insurance for the excessibely death averse. A CATII meter would probably not be labelled as such and is really in the gamble and hope category in worst case AC mains measurement scenarios. A CAT 1 meter will not be labelled. This National Instruments White paper on measurement categories is of interest. Main value is perhaps noting how high a withstand vo0ltage is needed to meet the various CAT ratings with certainty !!! http://www.ni.com/white-paper/5019/en Russell McMahon * pun noted --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .