Hmmm... was not aware that the USART TX was open-drain, but this can=20 make things much simpler. I'll have to investigate that. FWIW, each line is single direction always -- they are not bidirectional=20 lines. The line that goes 3.3V-->5V is what I was worried about, as=20 when the 3.3V TX output goes high, it would only go up to 3.3V, whereas=20 the 5V RX input wants to see 4.0V. But this is moot (and solved) if it's=20 open drain. I do remember that the 3.3V PIC's RX and TX pins are both 5V tolerant,=20 but now sure if the 3.3V side will clamp it. I'll have to test this=20 with my existing prototype setup I think. Cheers, -Neil. On 8/7/2012 3:03 PM, Joe Wronski wrote: > On 8/7/2012 2:47 AM, PICdude wrote: >> In the 3.3V-->5V direction, it seems the 5V RX1 input (18F24K22) is a >> Schmitt trigger, and the electrical specs for that in the datasheet >> are minimum input-High voltage of 0.8Vdd, so 4.0V, and thus the 3.3V >> signal won't work. >> > Eh? How is an open drain output from the 3.3V side *not* going to > meet the 4V input spec on the 5V side, if the line is pulled up to 5V? > Unless I'm missing something, the 5V tolerant feature of the 3.3V part > means you can just pull both lines up to 5V. > But if the 3.3V input side clamps the 5V output, the 5V side would get > confused when it's master? > > Joe W --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .