You might try a PCA9306. It is basically 2 of the FET circuits in an 8=20 pinIC package. Kerry PICdude wrote: > Hi, > > I'm connecting a 3.3V-powered PIC to a 5V-powered PIC via the hardware =20 > USARTs. Currently I have these prototyped and working well with =20 > bi-directional mosfet level converters as shown here... > http://www.nxp.com/documents/application_note/AN10441.pdf > > However, I need to fit this in a small enclosure and PCB real-estate =20 > is a problem once again. I'm wondering if I can eliminate or at least =20 > reduce the components for the logic-level converter. > > In the 5V-->3.3V direction, the 3.3V RX input (PIC24) is 5V fault =20 > tolerant, so I should be able to direct-connect that. > > In the 3.3V-->5V direction, it seems the 5V RX1 input (18F24K22) is a =20 > Schmitt trigger, and the electrical specs for that in the datasheet =20 > are minimum input-High voltage of 0.8Vdd, so 4.0V, and thus the 3.3V =20 > signal won't work. > > So that brings the 6 components down to 3 (mosfet and 2 resistors), =20 > but is there a better (smaller footprint) way, or something I'm =20 > missing here that would let me direct-connect the other direction? > > FWIW, I did find monolithic converters such as this, but it doesn't =20 > save much space... http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/PCA9306.pdf > > Cheers, > -Neil. > > > > =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .