Hi, I'm connecting a 3.3V-powered PIC to a 5V-powered PIC via the hardware =20 USARTs. Currently I have these prototyped and working well with =20 bi-directional mosfet level converters as shown here... http://www.nxp.com/documents/application_note/AN10441.pdf However, I need to fit this in a small enclosure and PCB real-estate =20 is a problem once again. I'm wondering if I can eliminate or at least =20 reduce the components for the logic-level converter. In the 5V-->3.3V direction, the 3.3V RX input (PIC24) is 5V fault =20 tolerant, so I should be able to direct-connect that. In the 3.3V-->5V direction, it seems the 5V RX1 input (18F24K22) is a =20 Schmitt trigger, and the electrical specs for that in the datasheet =20 are minimum input-High voltage of 0.8Vdd, so 4.0V, and thus the 3.3V =20 signal won't work. So that brings the 6 components down to 3 (mosfet and 2 resistors), =20 but is there a better (smaller footprint) way, or something I'm =20 missing here that would let me direct-connect the other direction? FWIW, I did find monolithic converters such as this, but it doesn't =20 save much space... http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/PCA9306.pdf Cheers, -Neil. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .