Agreed on that, there are enough drivers that never learned to use a=20 clutch properly, abused it on purpose (racing, needing to get a job done=20 like pulling a stuck vehicle out, etc.), and a few failures due to=20 defective parts/installation that have kept these specialist busy. My=20 neighbor's family has 3 transmission shops, work done includes manuals,=20 automatics, transfer cases and all driveline work. They are doing well.=20 From about 1968 to 2002 we have had numerous stick transmissions in the=20 family with 2 daughters learning to drive, and mostly selling the=20 vehicles with well over 100,000 miles, and one with 250,000. We never=20 needed to replace a clutch or open up a transmission. We did lose one=20 automatic on a Bronco at 74,000 miles. We came from Atlanta to=20 Cleveland, Ohio with temperatures above 100F pulling a trailer. Ford=20 maintenance schedule said it was not necessary to change the tranny oil=20 and filter in the Bronco, but had a scheduled change for the F150, which=20 is what a Bronco is based on. I followed the appropriate schedule. It's=20 likely if I had changed the oil at say 60,000 miles, there would not=20 have been a problem. The vehicle still had an extended Ford warranty,=20 and it was replaced at no charge. The lesson is pay attention to the=20 vehicle's schedule, and if you do abuse it, take appropriate action. On 8/6/2012 8:10 PM, John Gardner wrote: > I've known several mechanics in the last 30 years who > owned clutch shops. That's all they did - And very well, > thank you. > > The clutch in a transportation-oriented auto should outlast > the car. A few don't, because of poor design& Acts of God. > > The rest - Pilot Error. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .