Around here (Sweden) most cars are manual and the first thing you learn whe= n in=20 driving school (to get a drivers licence) is to drive in 1st gear very slow= and=20 constantly slipping with the clutch. You work with the clutch and the=20 accelerator pedals together to get a smoth ride. I actually never (or very seldom) let the clutch all the way up when drivin= g in=20 first gear. It is just to get the car rolling and then you shift it into 2n= d=20 gear (if you don't skip gears). A special lesson in driving school is to start from standstill in uphill. T= he=20 problem here is that you have to get the clutch just right in slip mode and= =20 quickly shift the foot from the break pedal to the accelerator pedal so the= car=20 doesn't roll backwards (into the car behind you) and work with the clutch a= nd=20 the accelerator together. In the beginning you can use the handbrake instea= d of=20 the foot brake to keep the car still, which makes it easier to adjust the=20 clutch and accelerator before letting the brake go. A common misstake for=20 beginners is to release the clutch go too much with too little gas which ma= kes=20 the engine stop (and the car behind to honk). /Ruben > However, my understanding is that it is considered > good practice to slip the clutch momentarily when starting out uphill > in a manual transmission car. If you don't do that, I think that you > would have to rev the engine up enough so that the flywheel inertia > would prevent the car from stalling when you suddenly let the clutch > out, and this would result in a jerky motion. >=20 > I drive manual cars, trucks, vans and bikes and never did that. This migh= t > be necessary if you push your engine to the limit and you have no more po= wer (or > almost to the limit). But don' t know. Eventually I'll switch down gears.= What I > know for sure is that with manual gearboxes, you, the driver must anticip= ate > what the engine will need not to stall it. >=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .