As far as I know, all automatics have a fluid coupling (torque=20 converter) which absorbs some of the jerk when clutch(s) are engaging.=20 The clutches are either engaged or disengaged, except for the brief=20 period of changing. There is no continuous slipping mode. The fluid=20 coupling, though rare, there have been some that are not torque=20 converters, action can be likened to stirring paint with a paddle. It=20 takes energy and does generate heat, but the paddle, can, and paint are=20 not damaged. Today most torque converters have a lock-up feature, to=20 make the input and output one solid piece via a clutch built into the=20 torque converter, which results in better gas mileage. No one as brought up CV (Continuously variable) transmission. This is=20 basically a very wide V-belt running on tapered pulleys. The distance=20 between the tapered sides of the pulleys can be adjusted, varying the=20 riding height of the belt, and the in/output shaft speed ratio. These=20 have been used for years in industrial applications where they are=20 generally driven by an electric motor which can be turned off,=20 eliminating the need for a clutch. In a car, I would think there is a=20 clutch other than widening the pulley to cause the belt to lose friction=20 to the pulley sides. Maybe can tell use how that happens. > I was wondering if the clutch-based automatics also did this maneuver > (i.e., slip the clutch) and if so, how do they deal with the abusive > situation where someone tries to hold the car on a hill continuously. > In a torque-converter type transmission, I think that this is > relatively harmless so that some people may have gotten into it as a > bad habit and never noticed problems. Such a person might have a lot > of problems if he switched to a clutch-type automatic and wasn't aware > of the difference, unless these transmissions had some way to protect > their clutches. > > Sean > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .