On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 06:49 -0700, Nily wrote: > Not to mention that is you have a starter problem, you can run it draggin= g > or pushing. Old automatic cars couldn't. Don't know if now they can. i gu= ess > no. Just be aware, that works for a dead starter, and it works with a weak battery, but with modern cars, it does NOT work with a completely dead battery. The computer needs some juice to fire the plugs and open the injectors, so you'll still need a boost on a completely dead battery. TTYL --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .