In the UK, if you pass your driving test in an automatic, you cannot legall= y drive a manual(stick) car. If you pass in a manual, you can drive both. The new European licences show the vehicle class as "B" for cars, but the d= riving license for the automatic=20 drivers has a subcode 78 to show Auto only. > Here in the USA, most young people have not learned to drive sticks.=20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .