On Thu, Aug 2, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Tamas Rudnai wrote: >=20 > I always thought the automatic is not good for saving on fuel, at least > that is the preconception in Europe. Is my experience totally wrong > meaning > that is only my bad driving habits, or this must be true for every > average > drivers or even to advanced drivers (advanced =3D I mean not the average > who > thinks they are advanced, but professional drivers who are learning these > stuff). >=20 > Are new automatics that good? Is this a solution for saving the world and > reduce the carbon footprint? Yes, you have saved the world! New automatics are good, still more lossy than manuals. But much better at shifting than humans. And since the shifts are done without the driver, the throttle is not upset. C5 Corvettes have a linkage that causes upshifts from 1 to 4 if conservative driving is sensed. Doubtless there are other tricks one could apply. Best regards, Bob --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - Email service worth paying for. Try it for free --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .