> Mine is the wicked lasers arctic, 1W output is what they state Yep, saw those the other day. Looks like the price does reflect some quality. I really like Mark's idea of burning a cutting pattern into wood. The cost for that laser might be a little too high until I establish a demand for the product I'm thinking of, although it certainly is very tempting to try it anyway. 2mm x 5mm could be too coarse though, I'll look into a better lens. I hope to be paying a visit to a laser cutting company this week for a job quote, I'd like to have a word with a technician about this Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .