> On 22/06/2012 20:39, Mauricio Giovagnini wrote: >>=20 >>> Also, I've seen a number of posts that indicate that the Pickit3 is >>> problematic, compared to the Pickit2, but those posts are a year old. >>> Is this still the case? >>=20 >> The most important missing thing when pickit 3 was released was the=20 > standalone programming application that has the pickit 2. >>=20 >> But I read and watched several videos talking about the release of the= =20 > standalone application for pickit3 but I can't get any useful link to the= =20 > app. >>=20 >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3EkNUa2nSDE >>=20 >> http://www.microchip.com/forums/m554515.aspx >=20 > It exists and can be found with a bit of googling, but I have found it=20 > fairly useless. But in the official link of Microchip's PICKIT3 it isn't and that is, at le= ast, a little bit weird.=A0=20 It is also referenced by a Microchip personel in the forum link I added and= it isn't there.=A0=20 =A0 >>> Most importantly though, I've read that each time the Pickit3=20 > switches >>> processor families, it needs to download new firmware.=A0 Not sure whe= re >>> it's downloading from, but I'm assuming it means download off=20 > the >>> internet... ?=A0 If so, what if I'm not connected to the internet?=A0= =20 > Will >>> it get it off my local PC, or will it just not be able to continue=20 > working? >>=20 >> It is true that new firmwares can be downloaded to the programmer when= =20 > chaning device families but >> you don't need to be connected to the internet all the time.=A0 The=20 > firmwares are picked up from your MPLAB directory (v8.8x or IDE X) >=20 > This is the only part of the PK3 which for me is still buggy.=A0 I develo= p=20 > code in a VMware machine so I can port around my development setup.=A0=20 > When changing device families in MPLABX (most often 18F to 12F) I have=20 > bricked the PK3 three times.=A0 This necessitates opening it up and=20 > reprogramming using my PK2.=A0 The fix is to do the firmware download fro= m=20 > MPLAB8 on the host, this works flawlessly. The same happened to me with MPLAB X IDE v1.10 and my ICD3.=A0 I had to rep= rogram it with the MPLAB v8.84. Fortunately the problem seems not to be present in MPLB X IDE v1.20 and it = wasn't present in MPLAB X IDE v1.0 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .