> The laser just needs to burn a light brown line http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DkT7dcA4Zjk0 Shows drawing on wood with a 1W laser at a reasonable speed I notice 500mW (250mA @ 2V) green pointers are for sale in NZ for $75, possibly that might be enough Exactly what more use 500mW is over a cheap 5mW pointer, I'm not sure. 500mW is extremely dangerous to be waving around >From what I can gather, lasers in domestic appliances (drives and printers) aren't powerful enough Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .