> Has anyone worked on a system using PWM to create a SMPSU where the > PIC/MCU supply is being generated from the PWM. I know this will need a > bootstrap mechanism and I guess that is what I am most interested. You need to be more specific about - available supply voltage and - PIC minimum startup voltage. Part number would help muchly. - acceptable startup conditions / triggers. For example, if startup is a user switch action you can drive a voltage doubler with a single switch action. The excessively enthused can manage double-double, with diode losses with a push and release two part action with an eg DPDT switch. If have 2 cell supply it is much easier than 1 cell supply. etc eg With a simple voltage double Cpump will charge to Vbat - Vd where Vd =3D a diode drop. Switch action produces Vbat + (Vbat-Vd) - Vd =3D 2Vbat -2 Vd. You can remove 1 x Vd loss by resistor charging the cap originally and assuming that back flow during pumping is small. You can also "get synchronous" and eliminate Vd drops. Fron 2 (Vb-Vd) and one cell and say Vd =3D 0.4 then if Vbat =3D low =3D 1V you get 1.2V with 2 diodes, 1.6V with one diode and 2V with no diodes. Not too marvellous except for 1.8V parts. If Vbat is 2V min you get 3.2V, 3.6V, 4V respectively =3D good/better/best. If you ring an inductor yiou can get almost any voltage you want. Extra points for ringing inductor which is subsequently used by PIC. You can get 1 cell to X Volt smps IC's for < 10 cents in Asia. These can make the task MUCH simpler (but less fun) More details please. Russell McMahon Russell --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .