> Cases not earthed -- was not aware that that could/should be > done It has fixed occassional mysteries. Personally cured problems caused by, such as, the position of wiring to an LED display, and the proximity of a relay > should have a sine wave, rather than square. See attached eeeuuuuwwww. That's overdriven. Did you say this was the first time you'd used these particular crystals with the 18F ? Suggests 100k - 200k series resistor http://www.microchip.com/forums/m313266.aspx Atmel, but would be relevant to PICs, see Section 4.2 http://www.atmel.com/Images/doc8333.pdf > In sleep mode, I get the same partial-sine waveform. If this really > is the issue now, then why is the wake-mode waveform changing? Possibly the 32kHz crystal is broadcasting noise into the die or the primary clock source Joe --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .