Hi all. I've used lithium ion cells in a few projects now, and they've served me well. I'm contemplating trying to make my next project extremely small (or, well packed at least, depending on your definition of small), and I'm curious how others have handled the situation I'm in. Basically the issue is that I'd like to have a removable battery, so that it can be swapped out during operation if it becomes drained. The case I'm using is a Hammond metal extrusion box (1455 series), so there is no battery door, or option for a battery door. In the past I've used 14500 cells, which have worked great. There's a company called Bulgin that makes a panel mount AA battery holder (check it out here: http://www.digikey.ca/product-detail/en/BX0011%2F1/708-1396-ND/198075= 4 ) which works great. Unfortunately, it's a bit large. It takes up a fair bit of internal volume, and for the box I want to use, it just won't fit. On my last project I used a small lithium polymer cell that worked great. But they aren't really removable in any easy way. I chose a pack that should provide the run time needed (so far it hasn't been a problem) and added the option to run the device from an external USB power source, such as an external battery pack. One ideal solution would be to use one of the many cell phone, digital camera or other electronic gadget packs. They seem to often require a special form to hold them though. So, how have you dealt with this? These are home projects, not production items. Manufacturing a battery holder and fitting it into a jam packed case seems unlikely from where I'm sitting, but I could be missing something. I'm leaning towards the external battery pack idea again, but I need to figure out how much my current draw is to see if I can get the run time I want for the size of cell I think I can squeeze in there. I'm not necessarily looking for an outright solution, but getting others' thoughts would be great! Josh --=20 A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -Douglas Adams --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .