On 5/15/2012 2:54 PM, Eric Kort wrote: > So, this morning I jump started our van (kids wanted to finish > listening to a story on the CD player when we got home last night, and > a person who shall rename nameless forgot to go back out later and > take the keys out of the ignition which was then left in "Acc" > position all night). This brought to mind a question I have long had > about jump starting. The battery in my car starts my car immediately. > But when I connect that same battery to another car (the one I am > jump starting), that car will not start immediately...I need to wait > several minutes with the cables connected until it will start. > > My question: why is that? I will share some hypotheses I have, mostly > for their entertainment value: > > 1. The resistance of the cables is too high to deliver the needed > current to start the dead vehicle. (It seems if that were true, > someone would be out there selling uber-cables that don't have this > problem, but I don't recall seeing such cables.) It isn't so much the resistance of the cables as it is the poor=20 connections at each end. Measure the surface area contacting both ends=20 and compare it to the size of the cable, if it isn't at least the same=20 amount of surface area then it doesn't matter how large the cable in=20 between , it is like connecting a 100 ohm resistor to a 2 inch thick=20 copper cable, the limit will still be the resistor and increasing cable=20 size isn't going to change that. > And while we are on it, why does the owner's manual suggest connecting > the negative end of the cable to the engine block of the dead vehicle > (doesn't the engine have continuity with the negative terminal on the > battery--making it simpler from a procedure point of view to just > connect the battery terminals on both vehicles)? > > Thanks, > Eric This is all about safety. Hydrogen gas can be an issue but the real=20 reason for not placing both cables on the battery is because the clamps=20 easily come loose from the terminals. If the two ends touch you now have=20 an arc of current equal to that of an arc welder with the clamps=20 bouncing around from the arcs and the user trying to stop the shorting=20 out, plastics, wires, and anything near by can easily catch fire from=20 the high temps the arc creates. I have seen what happened when a=20 mechanic dropped a wrench and it fell across battery terminals, not a=20 pretty sight. Most other surfaces are painted and don't pose as much a=20 threat from the positive contacting the frame. Mark --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .