On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Byron Jeff wrote: > You have good points. But I do still think the question needs to be > asked. There > are millions of pages of Microchip PIC discussions/projects that use the > 16F84[A]. With a preponderance of them, newbies (and the OP stated that) > are not really aware that they are for the most part obsolete. So by > asking > the question, it often gives an inrad to explaining that there are much > more capable and frankly cheaper parts. I have found that everyone asking for programming help on an '84 is working on a class assignment, nothing more, nothing less. So trying to talk to them about their choice of part is a nonstarter, it is simply noise to them, getting in the way of their task. Furthermore, they quite often only have access to the chip when their turn comes around, if at all. Best regards, Bob --=20 http://www.fastmail.fm - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an unladen european swallow --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .