Over the years I've become proficient at using Eagle. I may soon be in the position where I need to purchase Eagle again. I briefly tried some of the free alternatives about 5 years ago but the learning curve was difficult, combined with the fact that I already know Eagle very well. If you have used both Eagle and something like KiCAD (or other) would you give us a quick understanding of how you like both? --=20 Martin K. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .