> PIC-based PCBs, no-one seems to actually be doing this > isolating "ring" I've never done it, and I wouldn't have the first clue how many hundred PCBs I've designed and made that work just fine with frequencies from 32kHz to 75MHz. The only concession I make to the design guidelines is to always ground the crystal's case (to the general Vss, which is usually next to the OSC pins) --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .