> I believe that the time will come when magnetism, like gravity, is an > explainable event Presumably that means that "magnetism will be ..., like gravity will be ...= " ie "will be" in both cases :-). "Mediated by gravitons" does not yet sit quite comfortably. > that can > be discussed at the dinner table with the 6-year-old twins, just like > the weather is now. Here we find the fine distinction between "can be discussed" and "is explainable without a much larger super-computer than has yet been conceived of" :-). That said, people have been doing a very good job for a very long time of getting it right often enough when it mattered - one such excellent example being J M Stagg*, no doubt aided by an with invisible coterie of able and unseen helpers in place of the then non-existent (super)computer, but clearly very much aware of how the arcane system worked, more or less. That it was more than less on the occasion that mattered means that I am writing this in English. > I also believe that- in time- mankind will finally abandon foolishness > like nuclear-generated & > coal- or oil-generated electricity, and capture it from the sun, as God > intended. Reminds me of a rocket-ship quote - " Takes off and lands rear end first, as God and Robert Heinlein intended". Assuming all the standard models are correct (although the guys at CERN look liable to destroy that assumption in the not too distant future as their Higgs window shrinks to zero width) then all our energy comes from the sun. Some takes longer to get here. We have lots of Hydro power here, which is relatively short path. PV is a bit too short path by itself, clouds and night causing it problems. Wind is reasonably short path, but the path is a bit meandering, unless you find somewhere unusual. (Altimont Pass, offshore, ...). Anything above Iron is Star fabricated (providing standard model ... etc) and stuff below Iron is part processed raw material on its way to being iron. Hydrogen is the arguable exception (assuming ex Nihilo processes do not constitute being a star :-). Radioactives (see above iron), coal, oil - yep. Trees etc - proto coal. Bio fuels. Solar energy drives the lot. But of course we all know all this. I suspect we may yet extend the lunacy with Lunar Helium. TBD. it needs third stage fusion and so far we have been trying for 50 years to get stage one viable. By the time we can use lunar Helium space assess will either be trivially easy (beanstalks, ...) or all but impossible. > I hope mankind survives long enough. Amen. Russell * More fun for Jack if I don't give a reference ;-) --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .