Randy,=20 Are you going to be home later tonight? If so, I'll give you a call later. Regards, Jim > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: RE: [TECH] CFL vs incandescent vs LED > From: "Randy Abernathy" > Date: Thu, April 05, 2012 8:13 am > To: "'Microcontroller discussion list - Public.'" >=20 >=20 > I have CFL bulbs in applications at my home where they replaced incandesc= ent > bulbs. The CFL outlasts the incandescent by at least 5 times, under the > exact same conditions. They also provide as much light as the equivalent > incandescent. =20 >=20 > I use the least expensive ones I can find and have compared them to the m= ore > expensive "name brand" CFL bulbs. I find no advantage to using the more > expensive name brand bulbs in any area. =20 >=20 > There is a light fixture in my dining room which has 5 bulbs. I was > replacing at least one of the incandescent bulbs every couple of months. > Once I replaced all 5 with CFL bulbs that stopped. I put in the CFL bulb= s > over 4 years ago and haven't replaced a single one since. This fixture i= s > turned on and off. =20 >=20 > There is one which stays on 24/7, it is in a hallway and the CFL bulbs > outlast the incandescent bulbs I used to use in that fixture by at least = 10 > times. =20 >=20 > The only thing I find in the article with which I can totally agree is th= e > toxic aspect.=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf = Of > RussellMc > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:36 PM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [TECH] CFL vs incandescent vs LED >=20 > On 5 April 2012 06:28, YES NOPE9 wrote: >=20 > > > http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/wheaton2.1.1.html?utm_source=3Dtwitterfeed&= utm_m > edium=3Dtwitter > > > > CFL don't seem to last longer than incandescents >=20 > Some good material there BUT far from the full story, and I doubt his > general conclusions. >=20 > I have had some CFL bulbs last over 25,000 hours of operation. And > yes, they were operated as abnormally as the ones he cites which were > turned on & off every 2 minutes. Mine were low wattage (6W or 8W > usually) and were almost never turned off. >=20 > I mark all CFL bulbs with the date when installing them. I regularly > get years of calendar use. Operating hours varies. Few fail within > months. >=20 > If you want best output per Watt, buy brands made by people who know > what they are doing both in CFL manufacture and other areas. Philips' > Gloeilampenfabrieken* is one such but there are others. The Philip > Tornado CFL's were top ranked for output in tests arranged by an often > reputable consumer organisation here and about 2 x brighter than > bottom contenders. Philips publish lumen per Watt (when new) data on > the packets and elsewhere. >=20 > I'm adequately convinced that CFLs make economic sense in most > domestic situations. And I've yet to find an incandescent equivalent > to the 100 Watt electrical input CFL in my dining room light fitting > that will fit directly in the fitting - or a daylight white > incandesecent. >=20 > ie CFL's are not perfect and not as good as some claim, but I deem > them as adequately good. YMMV. >=20 > I have no financial interest in Philips ... - just like their products > generally. They even do an OK job of 'badge engineering' things. If > they sell it with their name on it's more likely than average to be OK > - here anyway. >=20 >=20 > Russell McMahon >=20 >=20 > * name changed in 1991, alas. >=20 > I visited their original factory in 2003 - even though it had been > utterly destroyed in WW2. > Nicely rebuilt as a 'corporate monument'. > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist >=20 > --=20 > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .