At 12:28 PM 4/4/2012, YES NOPE9 wrote: >http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/wheaton2.1.1.html?utm_source=3Dtwitterfeed&u= tm_medium=3Dtwitter > >CFL don't seem to last longer than incandescents My experience with CFL bulbs is somewhat different than most, I think. I lucked out when I started purchasing CFLs from Canadian Tire - they=20 had bulbs from Noma (the Christmas-light people) and they just seemed=20 to work. By 'seemed to work', I mean that I treated them just like=20 incandescent bulbs and they worked just like incandescent=20 bulbs. Instant ON with absolutely NO warm-up time whatsoever. Each of the two upstairs bathrooms in my current house had 8-bulb=20 fixtures with a mix of 40W and 60W bulbs. I replaced all those bulbs=20 with 16- 9W Noma bulbs and got essentially the same amount of light=20 as the original bulbs. Same with the rest of the fixtures in the house - I replaced every=20 incandescent bulb except for those in the refrigerator and oven - and=20 4 ceiling light fixtures that each used 3- 40W mini Fat-Albert bulbs=20 each. Those stayed as pairs of 40W incandescent (I removed one bulb=20 from each fixture) until I replaced them with triples of LED bulbs a=20 couple of years ago. But something in and about 25- 60W and those=20 16- 9W bulbs got changed out over the course of a weekend. We were in the house for a couple of months before I started the bulb=20 conversion process - this gave us a pretty good baseline for=20 power-usage comparison. We saw an instantaneous power reduction of=20 about 45% in the following months. Our heat and hot water comes from Natural Gas. The other electric=20 loads (besides lighting) is the electric stove, clothes washing=20 machine and dryer, fan motor in the furnace and all of the=20 electronics and such. All those bulbs got changed in the winter of 2006. I have replaced=20 one of the two outside bulbs twice and changed the single bulb in the=20 kitchen from 25W CFL to 40W CFL since then. The 16- 9W bulbs in the bathrooms are all still working well. None=20 have failed since being installed in 2006. I can't get the Noma CFL bulbs from Canadian Tire anymore and have=20 started purchasing CFL bulbs made by Phillips and others. Quite=20 frankly, they suck. I'm just not used to that two minute or so=20 warm-up period. On the other hand - I *do* like the color=20 temperature (daylight instead of 2700K). All in all - I'm really happy with my incandescent-to-CFL conversion. dwayne --=20 Dwayne Reid Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax www.trinity-electronics.com Custom Electronics Design and Manufacturing --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .