.... What O/S are you using it with (?) Virtual PC 2007 / DOS 6.22. Works fine, other than no mouse support, courtesy Bill & Co. Not that big a deal with Autotrax. (Unimaginable to the short-pants crew, I know...) .... If it has started working again with newer versions of Windows or if .... you have a version of Autrotrax that works with XP and newer it would .... be good to know. As a drawing tool it was fine enough for many things, .... a grand-master (which I'm not) could lay out most modern PCBs with it .... given enough time and the auto router even worked after a fashion. Easytrax is also available free, & I understand runs under XP, W98, perhaps even ME, which I know you'll want to resurrect :), others, so presumably mouse-able. Look here - http://www.lupinesystems.com/easytrax/ and here - http://www.altium.com/community/downloads/en/downloads_home.cfm For Autotrax 1.61 274X Gerbers & other goodies see - http://www.lh1.org/AUTOTRAX/autotrax.html#CCC Jack --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .