> If you need to do ICSP only, without debugging, maybe just put a jumper t= o > disconnect battery for programming? I was thinking of doing this in a thingie that must be used by students.=20 Trust them to do it wrong, and I don't like the idea of leaking (or=20 exploding) batteries. The circuit show by Sergio has one problem: it won't work for PICs that=20 need a power cycle to get into programming mode :( > Alternatively, can you use PIC that can be > programmed at low Vpp? Pickit 3 supports Vpp down to 1.8V. The problem (with the PICs I considered) is Vdd, not Vpp, especially the=20 Vdd required for a chip erase. --=20 Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu C++ on uC blog: http://www.voti.nl/erblog --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .