> It simply won't work with R3 and R4 base resistors grounded rather than c= onnected to > Vcc, since there is nothing to bias the transistors on when it's powered = up. >=20 Not true, if the publisher of the circuit had a pair of 100uF caps that wer= e at the end limits of tolerance in value this circuit would power up quite= happily, as the charge current through the caps will turn the transistors = on. With differences in cap values one transistor will get more base curren= t than the other once the cap charging current is >60uA (to get 0.6V across= 10k). Any astable multivibrator relies on some component imbalance to start oscil= lating, as exactly balanced components will result in both transistors draw= ing equal current at the same time, to a point where the collector voltage = on both transistors rises exactly equal, and eventually the caps will be ex= actly equally charged. --=20 Scanned by iCritical. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .