Thanks for the reply. :) On of the first things I did was check the caps. I have replaced them on=20 a couple of other boards in the last year. One of my hobbies is: people=20 give me their older computers, I fix them up, load some basic software=20 and donate them, where someone puts them to use. Intel is warranting the=20 dead board, should have the replacement tomorrow. Cost $25 for next day,=20 but it includes a return shipping label that's worth probably $15. And I=20 get a box to ship it back in. :) I had to E-mail them a JPG of the=20 invoice. Other than my call to them, waiting 5 minutes, and 3 calls back=20 from Intel for details one step at a time, last one to get my credit=20 card #, was a pleasant experience. On the other board, I made up 4 LED's with limiting resistors, plugged=20 them into unused floppy cable connector both the bad board and a running=20 one as baseline. Seems that the Motor Enable and Drive Selects for both=20 A & B are on where only B should be on. Quickly checking, there is no=20 short to ground or adjacent pins. Seems to be headed to a Super I/O chip=20 Winbond WPCD374L (around 100 pins) that is nearby on the corner of the=20 board. Don't think I want to tackle swapping that out, but maybe can=20 find someone locally if I can find the chip cheap enough. Rehabbed=20 boards are $35 - $50 inc. shipping. Might even be better than a new=20 one. And comes with 90 return, so not worth a lot of time. If it's going=20 to do something, probably will in that time. Going to pursue that more=20 tomorrow, been a busy day. :) On 3/12/2012 8:07 PM, cdb wrote: > ::I have 2 defective Intel DP965_LT mother boards with issues: > > Sounds like this model or batchis one to steer clear of :) > > The first thing I would check is the condition of all the electrolytic > caps. They may not be bulging, but in heavily used PC's the heat tends to > get to them - if they are solid aluminium, heat stress is unlikely. > Changing these could well get everything springing back to life. > > Note PC boards are at least 6 layer boards and the through hole caps are = a > pain to desolder and solder back in due to the copper earth layer. > > The SMD copper pads showing are probably components not required for that > model or version of the board - a different version of the same model may > well have those components fitted, so I wouldn't worry about bare copper > showing. > > I wouldn't use a heat gun (if you are talking about a general purpose hot > air gun) as often they can be too hot and components will desolder and > board delamintates. An SMD heat gun might be OK for waving in general > direction of SMD components that have no pins/pads visible in case a void > or dry joint has become apparent. > > It very likely that your motherboards are using lead free solder, so if y= ou > see joints that look dull, this may not be a dry joint but just how Pb > free looks. Soldering Pb free joints will take a little longer to get > flowing if you are going to try and reflow with standard lead solder. > > Colin > -- > cdb, colin@btech-online.co.uk on 13/03/2012 > > Web presence: www.btech-online.co.uk > > Hosted by: www.justhost.com.au > > > This email is to be considered private if addressed to a named individua= l > or Personnel Department, and public if addressed to a blog, forum or new= s > article. > > > > > =20 --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .