I have 2 defective Intel DP965_LT mother boards with issues: #1 doesn't recognize the floppy port. I have swapped cables, drives, and=20 disks which were OK in another computer. Otherwise the board seems to be=20 normal. #2 Doesn't boot, when powered ON, the fan kicks a fraction of a=20 revolution, and the on board LED stays lit, otherwise no other activity. a: This is with or without any other items, cables plugged in. b: PSU, Memory and CPU have been swapped to the other board, and=20 are OK. c: Was operating OK, was swapping pieces troubleshooting floppy=20 issue, quit all together. d: Am careful about static discharge issues. Have not been an issue=20 generally, but don't discount entirely. e: 8 months ago, Intel replaced one of the board for same no boot=20 issue. f: I would assume the board was wave soldered originally. On the=20 bottom side, there are large areas of bare copper showing with open=20 vias, and even some SMD pads that are copper showing. I'm assuming this=20 is a defect, and possibly a via broke. Is there any repair I could do=20 that might help?? I am good at soldering, but haven't got into SMD yet.=20 One thought I have is lightly polish the copper with a fine nylon pad,=20 coat with a non-acid flux, heat with a heat gun, and dab with solder=20 each point to flow. Maybe use a soldering iron. I'm hoping Intel will warrant at least one board, but that will take 2=20 weeks to see the replacement. I see on line these boards for $50=20 refurbished. I'm assuming these are mainly boards returned to Intel,=20 refurbished by Intel or sold and then refurbished. Would be nice to know=20 where that happens. I'm thinking there are very common defects in this=20 family of boards, and if you know what it is, it's an easy fix. Ever=20 since Intel moved these board fabs from Ireland to China, the quality=20 went downhill. I am thinking of going to some other manufacturer for replacement=20 boards, but cost is an issue. Here is some of the basic specs: Intel P4, Socket LGA775, 3.1G, dual CPU 800 MHZ buss 4 DDR2 slots (2 would be OK) 1 PCIE-16 video 3 PCI 3 PCIE-1 4 USB onboard 6 USB rear 1 DB-25 printer 1 RS-232 onboard 1 Floppy port I wouldn't mind the cost of the basic board, but most seem to have more=20 up to date CPU and memory, and that cost goes up considerably. Yes,=20 these are heavily equipped boards, but I use much of it. Seems the trend=20 is away from these type boards. Any comments, in particular of repair, refurbishing, replacement or=20 whatever greatly appreciated. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .