Short: Offered -subject to my confirmation of my rights to Altium Subscription. - Altium Designer 10 wih free upgrade to Altium Designer 12. - Subscription to Altium Subscription New cost in NZ =3D $NZ8645 =3D $US7120. I'd sell for 80% of that =3D $US5697 If the world is awash with discounted Altium Designer deals then this is not a good one. If it's not, then it may be. _________________ Regardless, I'd be interested in hearing what Altium Designer 12 is selling for in the US or elsewhere. Russell Longer: --------- I have Altium Designer 4 which I do not intend to upgrade for my own use. I have been offered Altium Designer 10 with free upgrade to AD12 when available plus (I think) Altium Subscription. The offer runs until March 31st. I'm advised that full price for AD10/AD12 and for AD subscription will be $NZ6,650 & $NZ1,995 thereafter. The upgrade offer price is $NZ3350 or about $5295 less than the $8645 for he two packages. Multiply$NZ by about 0.82 for $US at present I do not know how these prices compare to what AD is being offered for elsewhere. Is anyone interested in making me a sensible offer for by AD4 with upgrade rights? I assume the price covers AD10/12 and Altium subscription. If so the midpoint between 3350 and 8645 NZ is about $6000NZ. About $4800 U= S At that price I'd get 6000-3350 =3D $2650NZ or about $US2120 - perhaps a bit on the low side IF these prices are going US etc prices as well. Lets say 80% of new =3D $NZ68916 =3D $US5696 I get $US2937 in the hand. If the market is awash in cheap Altium deals this may be no bargain at all. If not, see me ... --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .