> I have one labelled "Garrity". It works, some, and I just disassembled i= t and it > has a battery marked: > SORBO > NI-MH Cell > 3.6V 80 mAh > 14hrs at 8 mA That is the same brand as in mine. >=20 > If you're seeing 12V winding it, with everything still connected, then th= e battery > has failed open. > Joe W That is my belief as well. I have occasion to order some parts today, so I will add the rechargeable 2= 450 coin cell and holder to the order, and see how we get on. --=20 Scanned by iCritical. --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .