Wearily dons admin exorcist pointed hat:: This is edging into religious flame wars. This is in OT which is where it should be. Objective comments on relative merits of X vs Y vs XYZT may convince some who haven't been seared by decades and decades of bickering on this and similar subjects. Any comment with the term 'crap" or similar in it is going to have to strive to claim objectivity. I'm not saying that it shouldn't be used - it's just that it's about as bad as invoking Godwin when it comes to trying to make a good argument. (Comparisons with excrement and the 3rd Reich have their legitimate place, but it's not usually where you'll find them used). It is undoubtedly true that many highly capable people run stable useful server systems using Microsoft products and that they are very happy with the results. It's also clear from the voting by numbers seen in reality that other systems are preferred by the majority. And there are many accounts that show that horror results can be had in all worlds. Objective fact based examples are liable to be more convincing when your choir attempts to sing to the other choir. As for trying to convince James to change ship lock stock and barrel - no chance. Start a new thread if that's your bent. Someone really good just might sell him on some form of enemy camp virtualisation though. Russell Hat's off. Family picnic party hat on ... On 26 February 2012 12:21, Andrew Wood wrote: > On 25/02/12 22:24, Joe Wronski wrote: > > Logical reasoning of entrepreneurial sysadmins and authors who make > > money supporting linux systems, I would guess. > > Not that there's anything wrong with that. I don't much like Microsoft > > either, but if I needed a system that just works and I didn't need to > > tinker with everything, I'd probably love them and Apple. > > Joe W > Theres a logical reason all the major webites on the net run on Linux > servers (Google, Wikipedia, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon). > People spout this crap about MS servers being easy to use and Linux > being complex. > > 1. Linux is no where near as complex as Windows under the hood. Id > rather edit a Linux text config file than the Windows registry any day. > Furthermore a command line interface stays the same pretty much, the > Windows GUI moves things around from one release to the next. > > 2. If you dont know how to delve under the hood when things go wrong > (either on linux or windows) and have to have a point & click gui then > you shouldnt be left in charge of a mission critical server in the first > place whatever os its running cos something WILL go wrong and you'll be > screwed. > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .