Sometimes programming cables can be perverse! Too long too short,=20 whatever... You won't know the answer without getting the real thing and trying... Moving a project from a proto board is not always as simple as it sounds. On 2/23/2012 8:09 PM, mcd@is-sixsigma.com wrote: > OK, this is truly strange. I got an ICD3 a couple months ago, only > recently have had time to play with it. I've used it successfully on a > number of 8 bit projects, but no joy on 16-bit projects. I always get > either no target or more commonly, target ID =3D 0; > > Well, one thing that was constant was that on 16 bit projects I was using > the supplied cable but on 8 bit projects I was using a variety of cobbled > up cables, some pretty bad. So, suspecting Microchip's cable I made up > another, and got the same result. > > Well, the other thing that is constant is that all the 16 bit things I > tried were on Microchip boards; the 28 pin starter, Explorer 16, or > PIC24FJ256DA210 board. So as a last gasp, I stuck a 30F3013 on one of > those stupid proto boards, used a very shaky cable, and it worked first > time out! > > Now, the made up duplicate of the Microchip cable I made by carefully > duplicating Microchip's cable. Is it possible that the original cable wa= s > wired wrong? Doesn't seem likely, but I did use the original cable as a > guide, rather than the schematics. But that cable bring wrong seems very > far fetched. > > Is there something odd about Microchip's various experimenter boards? > Same issue on three different boards seems equally unlikely. > > I'm totally befuddled. > > --McD > > --=20 John Ferrell W8CCW Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for. - Will Rogers --=20 http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist .